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2004 Oral History Interview

Mr. Stephen Fram

Interview Details
Year: 2004
Pages: 111
Status: Open

Stephen Fram recounts his distinguished career in the Ontario Ministry of the Attorney General’s Policy Development Division from 1973 to 1995. Hired directly by Marshall Pollock after graduating second in his class from University of Toronto law school, Fram joined the newly created policy branch during a transformative period when the ministry was consolidating all government legal services. He played a key role in developing foundational legislation including the Juries Act, Landlord and Tenant reforms, Occupiers Liability Act, and Trespass to Property Act during the McMurtry era.

Fram’s signature achievement was the Construction Lien Act, which he developed through an innovative consensus-building process involving industry stakeholders, resulting in unanimous legislative passage. He also worked extensively on professional regulation, the Substitute Decisions Act, and various lien legislation. The interview reveals the evolution of the ministry from a small, collaborative environment under the Progressive Conservatives to increasing bureaucratization under subsequent Liberal and NDP governments.

Fram provides candid assessments of various Attorneys General, praising Roy McMurtry’s collaborative approach while noting Ian Scott’s brilliance but isolation from civil service. He describes the gradual decline of the policy branch’s influence and quality, particularly under Deputy Larry Taman, culminating in his early retirement in 1995 when meaningful policy work diminished.

This description was written by AI and may contain some inaccuracies.

References

The following are a selection of topics discussed in this oral history.

Courts
  • County Courts
  • District Court of Ontario
  • Ontario Court of Appeal
  • Supreme Court of Canada
  • Supreme Court of Ontario
Educational Institutions
  • Osgoode Hall Law School
  • University of Toronto Faculty of Law
  • York University
Government Bodies
  • Cabinet
  • Committee on Government Productivity
  • Legislative Counsel's Office
  • Ministry of Community and Social Services
  • Ministry of Consumer and Commercial Relations
  • Ministry of Health
  • Ministry of the Attorney General
  • Public Trustee's Office
Historical Events
  • Charter of Rights and Freedoms Adoption
  • McRuer Commission Implementation
  • Patriation of the Constitution
  • Unity of Personality Abolition
Jurisdictions
  • Alberta
  • British Columbia
  • Canada
  • Ontario
  • United States
Law Firms
  • Koskie Minsky
  • Rosenfeld Schwartz
Legal Cases
  • R. v. Oakes
Oral History Tags
  • Ministry of the Attorney General
People Mentioned
  • Al Russell
  • Alan Doppelt
  • Alan Leal
  • Allan Shipley
  • Archie Campbell
  • Art Stone
  • Arthur Norman Stone
  • Bill Davis
  • Blenus Wright
  • Bob Rae
  • Bob Welch
  • Craig Perkins
  • Dalton Bales
  • David Peterson
  • Diana Hunt
  • Dick Chaloner
  • Don Pringle
  • Doug Beecroft
  • Doug Ewart
  • Duke McTavish
  • Ed Renwick
  • Ed Ryan
  • Elaine Ziemba
  • Frank Callaghan
  • Frank Drey
  • George Thomson
  • Howard Hampton
  • Ian Scott
  • Jack Fader
  • Janisch Dukstra
  • Jim Heal
  • Jim Wilson
  • John Cavarzan
  • John Connacher
  • John Gregory
  • John Hilton
  • Karen Weiler
  • Keith Norton
  • Kevin McGuiness
  • Larry Taman
  • Lois Lauenberger
  • Lyn McLeod
  • Margaret Campbell
  • Marian Leitman
  • Marie Moliner
  • Marion Boyd
  • Mark Leach
  • Marshall Pollock
  • Mary Hogan
  • Master McRae
  • Mike Harris
  • Morris Manning
  • Murray Elston
  • Norm Sterling
  • Pat Lawlor
  • Patrick LeSage
  • Patrick Monaghan
  • Peter Hogg
  • Phil Ambrose
  • Ray Koskie
  • Rendall Dick
  • Roy McMurtry
  • Sandra Wein
  • Scott Macaulay
  • Sidney Tucker
  • Stephen Fram
  • Thea Herman
  • Warner Alcombrack
Professional Organizations
  • Bruce Trail Association
  • Canadian Bar Association
  • Federation of Agriculture
  • Law Reform Commission of Canada
  • Ontario Law Reform Commission
  • Ontario Medical Association
Time Periods
  • 1970s
  • 1980s
  • 1990s
Topics
  • Administrative Law
  • Charter Rights
  • Civil Procedure
  • Constitutional Law
  • Construction Lien Law
  • Criminal Law
  • Family Law
  • Health Law
  • Human Rights Law
  • Juries Act
  • Landlord and Tenant Law
  • Occupiers' Liability
  • Professional Regulation
  • Rent Control
  • Residential Tenancies Law
  • Substitute Decisions
  • Trespass

Some of these references were generated by AI and may contain inaccuracies.

Archive Details

Archive Code: C 81-4-0-110
Title: Interview with Stephen Fram
Date: 04-Jul
Description: Textual records, Sound recordings
Physical Description: 1 file of textual records (includes 4 audio cassettes (ca. 270 minutes))
Restrictions: None
Container Info: (Textual records are located in container B437268; sound recordings are located in container B437267)
Location: Interview conducted as part of the Attorney General Project.

Scope: File consists of oral history records documenting the life and career of Stephen Fram (b. 1941), a lawyer in the Policy Branch of the Ministry of Attorney General (1971-1995). Interview topics include: early years; Law School at University of Toronto; move to Ministry of Attorney General, Policy Branch (1973-1995); architects and engineers; unity of personality legislation; Juries Act; amendments to Landlord and Tenant Act (1975); Law Reform Commission reports to Ministry; Trespass to Property Act; various DAGs; various Attorney Generals; Construction Lien Legislation (1983-1984); culture of Ministry under different people; interaction with other ministries; Ministry grown; Substitute Decisions Act evolution (1987); Repair and Storage Lien Act (1984); Residential Tenancies Act; post- retirement consultancies. Interview conducted by Cynthia Smith. File includes four audio cassette recordings, a transcript with index (111 p.) and a copy of a release form.

File consists of oral history records documenting the life and career of Stephen Fram (b. 1941), a lawyer in the Policy Branch of the Ministry of Attorney General (1971-1995). Interview topics include: early years; Law School at University of Toronto; move to Ministry of Attorney General, Policy Branch (1973-1995); architects and engineers; unity of personality legislation; Juries Act; amendments to Landlord and Tenant Act (1975); Law Reform Commission reports to Ministry; Trespass to Property Act; various DAGs; various Attorney Generals; Construction Lien Legislation (1983-1984); culture of Ministry under different people; interaction with other ministries; Ministry grown; Substitute Decisions Act evolution (1987); Repair and Storage Lien Act (1984); Residential Tenancies Act; post- retirement consultancies. Interview conducted by Cynthia Smith. File includes four audio cassette recordings, a transcript with index (111 p.) and a copy of a release form.